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Gingerich: Yes, I really didn’t think that I would ever do that.

After I moved to Stephenville, a friend of mine, we started talking about guys, girl-talk stuff, and we both made a Plenty of Fish profile. Because we were talking to so many different guys on there, we just enjoyed it, it was our girl time. That was maybe four years ago, so I would have been 23. Several years later, I had met somebody at work, but we broke up.

Khazan: Who picked up on the other end when you called? A lady that picked me up from the little town, the day that I left. Khazan: Where did you get your first non-Amish outfit? Khazan: Do you remember the first time you went on the Internet? I had no idea that my grandfather was such a horrible person. Gingerich: Because three of his sisters left, and I’m thinking it was all because of their dad. The people have a choice of staying where they’re at now or they can leave and join a different church, with less rules, I guess. Gingerich: Freedom to be able to go work outside the community, to be able to use a driver to go to work instead of horse and buggy. Gingerich: I had a difficult time speaking English, mainly because I was scared of what I was saying.

Gingerich: Some people donated clothes, which were way too big for me, to start with. I went to a thrift store first, because I didn’t have much money. Gingerich: I wanted to learn how to type, so I pulled up a Word document. I always wanted to be one of those people who didn't have to look at the keyboard. Gingerich: I started taking GED classes four or five months after I left. Khazan: What are some of your favorite websites now? I didn’t like him ever, while we were growing up, I hated going to his house because he was such a mean guy, but after I read some of that stuff, I thought, “Wow, no wonder my dad is so upset that I left.”I almost felt sorry for my dad at that point, because I think he probably blamed himself for not being able to keep me there. And my dad was not near the horrible person that his dad was, so he probably just couldn’t understand why I wanted to leave. I can just say what I think it is: Some people want a different lifestyle. And then there’s people who say, “No you can’t do that, that’s wrong,” and then they shun people. Khazan: So the thing that people want that’s different is more freedom? Worrying that I was saying something wrong, worrying that people wouldn’t understand me and I would have to repeat it. Gingerich: I don’t think it really hit me until I started my bachelor’s degree. I would wake up the next day and feel like, what was I crying about again? Khazan: Has technology ever failed you in a certain way?

I guess because I never saw him talking on it—except to his mom.

They can make whatever choice they want, but still they're complaining that they don't have enough, not enough options. For example, the Amish have more than one church, but if you join a different church than the rest of your family, you get shunned. Khazan: Like, maybe reality TV, or i Phone games, or ... Because it feels like I’m naked or something without being constantly updated on what’s going on.

And here, you can go to a Baptist church one week and the Methodist church another week and you don't even officially have to be a member of the church. Khazan: And what tech things do typical Americans think are very cool, but aren’t that cool in the grand scheme of things? Khazan: In your book you describe the Amish courtship style in graphic detail.

You don’t want him to see something, to notice something. I love Maine, it’s beautiful and I could see myself living there.

I’ve actually tried looking for a job and looking for a place to live up there, but it just doesn’t work out.

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